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here are my slides -- it was an epic battle:
http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius PWNED! -- http://tim.lossen.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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:))
I like the slides ! On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: > here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: > > http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius > > PWNED! > > > -- > http://tim.lossen.de > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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OMG! :)
-Tom On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: > here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: > > http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius > > PWNED! > > > -- > http://tim.lossen.de > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > -- blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo mail: [hidden email] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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.... wait until you see the video! :)
On 2012-03-12, at 6:29 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote: > OMG! :) > > -Tom > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: >> here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius >> >> PWNED! >> >> >> -- >> http://tim.lossen.de >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >> >> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >> >> > > > > -- > blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo > mail: [hidden email] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > -- http://tim.lossen.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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I saw it live - it was great!
Best greetings, Paweł Wielgus. 2012/3/12 Tim Lossen <[hidden email]>: > .... wait until you see the video! :) > > > On 2012-03-12, at 6:29 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote: > >> OMG! :) >> >> -Tom >> >> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: >>> >>> http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius >>> >>> PWNED! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://tim.lossen.de >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>> >>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo >> mail: [hidden email] >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >> >> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >> >> > > -- > http://tim.lossen.de > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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thanks, paweł!
for the others -- here is a sneak preview: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jandudulski/6834089352/in/set-72157629579370101/ tim On 2012-03-14, at 16:06 , Paweł Wielgus wrote: > I saw it live - it was great! > > Best greetings, > Paweł Wielgus. > > > 2012/3/12 Tim Lossen <[hidden email]>: >> .... wait until you see the video! :) >> >> >> On 2012-03-12, at 6:29 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote: >> >>> OMG! :) >>> >>> -Tom >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: >>>> >>>> http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius >>>> >>>> PWNED! >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://tim.lossen.de >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>>> >>>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo >>> mail: [hidden email] >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>> >>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>> >>> >> >> -- >> http://tim.lossen.de >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >> >> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > -- http://tim.lossen.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: thanks, paweł! Thanks for sharing! Looks like you guys had a blast.
Any slides/recording?
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for slides, see link below in this thread. i'll post a link to the video
once it has been published. tim On 2012-03-17, at 1:30 PM, kedar mhaswade wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: > thanks, paweł! > > for the others -- here is a sneak preview: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/jandudulski/6834089352/in/set-72157629579370101/ > > Thanks for sharing! Looks like you guys had a blast. > Any slides/recording? > > > > tim > > On 2012-03-14, at 16:06 , Paweł Wielgus wrote: > > > I saw it live - it was great! > > > > Best greetings, > > Paweł Wielgus. > > > > > > 2012/3/12 Tim Lossen <[hidden email]>: > >> .... wait until you see the video! :) > >> > >> > >> On 2012-03-12, at 6:29 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote: > >> > >>> OMG! :) > >>> > >>> -Tom > >>> > >>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius > >>>> > >>>> PWNED! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> http://tim.lossen.de > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > >>>> > >>>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo > >>> mail: [hidden email] > >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > >>> > >>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> http://tim.lossen.de > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > >> > >> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > >> > >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > > > > > -- > http://tim.lossen.de > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > > -- http://tim.lossen.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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and here it is, finally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYYGage3B-I enjoy :) On 2012-03-12, at 20:50 , Tim Lossen wrote: > .... wait until you see the video! :) > > On 2012-03-12, at 6:29 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote: > >> OMG! :) >> >> -Tom >> >> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: >>> >>> http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius >>> >>> PWNED! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://tim.lossen.de >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>> >>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo >> mail: [hidden email] >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >> >> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >> >> > > -- > http://tim.lossen.de > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > -- http://tim.lossen.de --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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I'm going to pick on one thing Dirkjan said, about JRuby using hash
tables for instance variables. Currently JRuby uses a name->index table on the object class, that indexes into an array on the object instance. Whilst not quite as efficient as compiling a class layout (or the shadow class concept from self), it is good enough. e.g. You have a class Foo, that has instance variables @a and @b. Foo.class has a table that maps @a to index 0, and @b to index 1. Each instance of Foo then has an array of objects of length 2, which stores its instance variables. To get @a of an instance of Foo, f, in pseudo-java, it would be: f.ivarTable[f.class.ivarTableIndexOf("@a")] So, each instance of Foo, need only allocate an array to hold just the instance variable data, instead of a generic hash table to hold both key+data pairs. And with jdk 7, ivar accesses are performed using method handles, so there is no name->index lookup on every access, the index of the ivar is stored in the method handle, so an ivar get/set is just an array element access with a constant index. On 12 April 2012 08:01, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: > and here it is, finally: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYYGage3B-I > > enjoy :) > > > On 2012-03-12, at 20:50 , Tim Lossen wrote: > >> .... wait until you see the video! :) >> >> On 2012-03-12, at 6:29 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote: >> >>> OMG! :) >>> >>> -Tom >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: >>>> >>>> http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius >>>> >>>> PWNED! >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://tim.lossen.de >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>>> >>>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo >>> mail: [hidden email] >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>> >>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>> >>> >> >> -- >> http://tim.lossen.de >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >> >> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >> >> > > -- > http://tim.lossen.de > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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Yeah, I thought I heard that too, but wasn't sure.
Dirkjan said many things about JRuby that were patently wrong. I'd like to get a chance to to go head to head with any one of the core Rubinius guys at a similar event some day :) - Charlie On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Wayne Meissner <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm going to pick on one thing Dirkjan said, about JRuby using hash > tables for instance variables. > > Currently JRuby uses a name->index table on the object class, that > indexes into an array on the object instance. Whilst not quite as > efficient as compiling a class layout (or the shadow class concept > from self), it is good enough. > > e.g. > > You have a class Foo, that has instance variables @a and @b. > Foo.class has a table that maps @a to index 0, and @b to index 1. > Each instance of Foo then has an array of objects of length 2, which > stores its instance variables. > > To get @a of an instance of Foo, f, in pseudo-java, it would be: > > f.ivarTable[f.class.ivarTableIndexOf("@a")] > > So, each instance of Foo, need only allocate an array to hold just the > instance variable data, instead of a generic hash table to hold both > key+data pairs. > > And with jdk 7, ivar accesses are performed using method handles, so > there is no name->index lookup on every access, the index of the ivar > is stored in the method handle, so an ivar get/set is just an array > element access with a constant index. > > > On 12 April 2012 08:01, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: >> and here it is, finally: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYYGage3B-I >> >> enjoy :) >> >> >> On 2012-03-12, at 20:50 , Tim Lossen wrote: >> >>> .... wait until you see the video! :) >>> >>> On 2012-03-12, at 6:29 PM, Thomas E Enebo wrote: >>> >>>> OMG! :) >>>> >>>> -Tom >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Tim Lossen <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> here are my slides -- it was an epic battle: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.slideshare.net/tim.lossen.de/jruby-vs-rubinius >>>>> >>>>> PWNED! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://tim.lossen.de >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>>>> >>>>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo >>>> mail: [hidden email] >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>>> >>>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://tim.lossen.de >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>> >>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>> >>> >> >> -- >> http://tim.lossen.de >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >> >> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: > > http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email |
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